In most golf techniques, the LEFT LEG is the Pivotal Axis, this is the one we are rotating around during the downstroke, and the weight is mainly on this leg during the downstroke, through the impact area, on to the finish. The Bennett/Plummer techniques even have the weight here all the way throughout the stroke.
I have heard of techniques where the Pivotal Axis is on the right leg. Are any of you familiar with any of these?
In most golf techniques, the LEFT LEG is the Pivotal Axis, this is the one we are rotating around during the downstroke, and the weight is mainly on this leg during the downstroke, through the impact area, on to the finish. The Bennett/Plummer techniques even have the weight here all the way throughout the stroke.
I have heard of techniques where the Pivotal Axis is on the right leg. Are any of you familiar with any of these?
I completely agree. On every Shot.
I ONLY use my Right Leg as the Pivotal Axis. Pressure is on my Right Leg driving my Right Hip Forward which pushes my Left Hip forward and Back all the way through to at Least Both Arms Straight. The Left Leg supports the Body Weight. The Right Leg braces and then Drives the Hip Action.
I don't know who Bennett/Plummer are, but Homer Kelly and Yoda are Keenly conscious of this.
I ONLY use my Right Leg as the Pivotal Axis. Pressure is on my Right Leg driving my Right Hip Forward which pushes my Left Hip forward and Back all the way through to at Least Both Arms Straight. The Left Leg supports the Body Weight. The Right Leg braces and then Drives the Hip Action.
I don't know who Bennett/Plummer are, but Homer Kelly and Yoda are Keenly conscious of this.
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Bennett/Plummer are the Stack and Tilt men. The weight stays left throughout the stroke. Aaron Baddeley, Charlie Wi, Mike Weir, etc..
I have heard that another fairly well known instructor, uses the Right Leg as the Pivotal Axis, the weight is on the right leg through the ball. I think Zach Johnson is a right leg guy.
I looks like it can be done either way, as long as one knows how to make that way work. How about some discussion on BOTH WAYS.
Bennett/Plummer are the Stack and Tilt men. The weight stays left throughout the stroke. Aaron Baddeley, Charlie Wi, Mike Weir, etc..
I have heard that another fairly well known instructor, uses the Right Leg as the Pivotal Axis, the weight is on the right leg through the ball. I think Zach Johnson is a right leg guy.
I looks like it can be done either way, as long as one knows how to make that way work. How about some discussion on BOTH WAYS.
Interesting. Stack and Tilt? I stopped reading the Golf Rags years ago.
If you pivot on your left Leg, then the Right Hip moves toward the Plane Line and you may not clear the Right Hip using a Straight Line Delivery Path. A little Over-The-Top occurs unless you simply slide left until Release. But there’s not much Hip Action there. And, How far Forward can the Right Hip move if it’s being pulled by the Left Hip? It Starts to Jam up near Impact. I spent years doing it that way.
Very similar to the Right Shoulder controlling the Left Shoulder, so does the Right Hip Control the Direction and Travel Distance of the Left Hip.
Baseball, Football, etc, use the Right Leg for the Hips to Pivot around and supply forward Hip Thrust.
The Right Leg serves as a backstop for the Shoulder Turn Both Ways.
Interesting. Stack and Tilt? I stopped reading the Golf Rags years ago.
If you pivot on your left Leg, then the Right Hip moves toward the Plane Line and you may not clear the Right Hip using a Straight Line Delivery Path. A little Over-The-Top occurs unless you simply slide left until Release. But there’s not much Hip Action there. And, How far Forward can the Right Hip move if it’s being pulled by the Left Hip? It Starts to Jam up near Impact. I spent years doing it that way.
Very similar to the Right Shoulder controlling the Left Shoulder, so does the Right Hip Control the Direction and Travel Distance of the Left Hip.
Baseball, Football, etc, use the Right Leg for the Hips to Pivot around and supply forward Hip Thrust.
The Right Leg serves as a backstop for the Shoulder Turn Both Ways.
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Good response Mr. Daryl!!
Mr. Bennett practices, and occasionally gives some lessons near where I live. He is a very impressive ball striker himself. Some of their info is from TGM and some for MORAD... and some from their research. Tom Scherrer was the most impressive of the students I saw him working with, and they have many.
There are obviously two choices here... Left or Right Leg... there must be a Pivotal Axis for the mechanics to work.
More discussion...
Last edited by lagster : 02-12-2008 at 01:25 AM.
Reason: spelling
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Good response Mr. Daryl!!
Mr. Bennett practices, and occasionally gives some lessons near where I live. He is a very impressive ball striker himself. Some of thier info is from TGM and some for MORAD... and some from their research. Tom Scherrer was the most impressive of the students I saw him working with, and they have many.
There are obviously two choices here... Left or Right Leg... there must be a Pivotal Axis for the mechanics to work.
More discussion...
Pivotal Axis, There must be, I agree. Choices? Possibly. However; we can assess the value of a particular Procedure based on Mechanical Advantage.
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Good response Mr. Daryl!!
Mr. Bennett practices, and occasionally gives some lessons near where I live. He is a very impressive ball striker himself. Some of thier info is from TGM and some for MORAD... and some from their research. Tom Scherrer was the most impressive of the students I saw him working with, and they have many.
There are obviously two choices here... Left or Right Leg... there must be a Pivotal Axis for the mechanics to work.
More discussion...
Why are we only getting two choices? My choice is a line that kinda goes out diagonally from the head down throught the spine and out the booty. based on the amount of axis tilt the point it hits the ground out behind me is further up or down plane.. . . that's what I'm trying to comply to anyhow.
In most golf techniques, the LEFT LEG is the Pivotal Axis, this is the one we are rotating around during the downstroke, and the weight is mainly on this leg during the downstroke, through the impact area, on to the finish. The Bennett/Plummer techniques even have the weight here all the way throughout the stroke.
I have heard of techniques where the Pivotal Axis is on the right leg. Are any of you familiar with any of these?
Pivotal Axis???
There is no pivotal axis!
Whenever the hips are moving, the legs are moving, the knee flex is changing dynamically, as is the ankle joint - because of the changing 'axis tilt' of the spine as the hips slide and the 'cylindrical' motion of the hips relative to itself under a stationary head (think of a disc (hips) moving around the outside of a big sphere(center of sphere - head)) moving the hip sockets in a circle.
It is not a pivotal axis unless you take it very literally - the terminology is misleading though - it could be in the sence that your ankle is a pivotal axis, or your wrist is a pivotal axis or your neck is a pivotal axis, or your elbow is a pivotal axis....
You could say that the legs act as constraint to the amount of displacement that can occur when the hips make their motion, however that does not in any way qualify it as a pivotal axis to the pivot - certainly in the way you mean't anyhows.
You state that there is no pivotal axis. VJ Trolio writes about a downswing pivotal axis located in the region of the left leg in his book on Hogan, and he states that the pelvic rotation angular momentum is enhanced if the COG is nearer to the pivotal axis. Are you saying that his idea about a left leg pivotal axis is wrong-headed?
Secondly, during the downswing-followthrough-finish part of the swing, the pelvis rotates 135 degrees (presuming a 45 degree pelvic rotation in the backswing). I personally believe that the pelvis essentially has to pivot over the straightening (firming up) left leg, and that it is impossible to pivot over the right leg, which is becoming progressively more unweighted during this time period. Are you saying that I am wrong to think in this manner?
Here is a video link to Shawn Clement hitting off one-leg.
I believe that he is pivoting over that left leg during the downswing/followthrough. Do you disagree?
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