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Old 11-22-2007, 06:59 AM
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Please note that this is in the lab section... thoughts expressed for discussion...not trying to tell anyone what to do... . You guys in USA have been busy celebrating Thanksgiving but in UK it is just cold and miserable and I have had time on my hands...so here goes...

Dowels can teach alignments ( geometry ...the "G" in G.O.L.F.) but they alone cannot simulate or teach or simulate the forces ( the "F" in G.O.L.F.).

The recognition of these forces and manipulating the direction of thrust allow hands controlled pivot ... within the constraints provided by stationary something, balance and rhythm.

I was looking for a way to combine the purity of dowel alignment with an element of force or physics. It is my belief that if the brain fully understands the task involved in directing force appropriately... all of the good positions in "position golf" are created...but in a way that is easier to remember and reproduce.

Here are 2 images ( apology to Ted - not many hitters photos i could find!! PLEASE NOTE TED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RAMBLE!!!)




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These are only meant to teach 7-19 and demonstrate the consequences of loading for hit or swing on 7-3... ie. lag loading and its consequent effect on right forearm alignments and pp3 location at transition...

Please note that a "mini dowel" is essentially grip with laser in butt end to trace staright plane line and attachment to bungee or pulley as appropriate :

- The Swingers mini dowel attaches at tip of grip...to promote a longitudinal pull.
- The hitters mini dowel attaches to bungee at back of shaft around pp3

Also the angle of pulley on the swingers system can be moved to align with the turned shoulder plane to ensure an on plane pull.

Disclaimer :- Please be careful with rope...it is very close to your neck and golf can be a depressing game!!
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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dang, i almost feel like i should build one in my garage to sense the swingers pull!
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:35 PM
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Lag Loading With Golfbulldog
Great post, Golfbulldog. Lots to think about for both Swingers and Hitters.

Thanks!
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:02 AM
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golfbulldog,

I'm loving it! Could you mind doing another one for Hogan?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:02 AM
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Please do not take my silly machines too seriously! I am between jobs at the moment...weather has been poor, too much time on my hands! These are my versions of Leonardo's drawings...designs for helicopters that have not actually been built...and who knows if they would actualy work but they provide my brain with feels for pulling and pushing...
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:52 AM
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Awesome machines...
golfbulldog,

I did the "pull" during lunch hour and i was thinking of the variable weight at 10 pounds at the other end....I pulled the handle with the feeling of slow, strong and heavy.....!!! One of my friend at range showed me with this look and I Crazy long....
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:58 AM
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golfbulldog,

I'm loving it! Could you mind doing another one for Hogan?


Small payback to you for all your videos!! Thanks KOC.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:01 AM
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Dinner for you when you are in HK or China.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:58 AM
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Please note that this is in the lab section... thoughts expressed for discussion...not trying to tell anyone what to do... . You guys in USA have been busy celebrating Thanksgiving but in UK it is just cold and miserable and I have had time on my hands...so here goes...

Dowels can teach alignments ( geometry ...the "G" in G.O.L.F.) but they alone cannot simulate or teach or simulate the forces ( the "F" in G.O.L.F.).

The recognition of these forces and manipulating the direction of thrust allow hands controlled pivot ... within the constraints provided by stationary something, balance and rhythm.

I was looking for a way to combine the purity of dowel alignment with an element of force or physics. It is my belief that if the brain fully understands the task involved in directing force appropriately... all of the good positions in "position golf" are created...but in a way that is easier to remember and reproduce.

Here are 2 images ( apology to Ted - not many hitters photos i could find!! PLEASE NOTE TED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RAMBLE!!!)




Comments??

These are only meant to teach 7-19 and demonstrate the consequences of loading for hit or swing on 7-3... ie. lag loading and its consequent effect on right forearm alignments and pp3 location at transition...

Please note that a "mini dowel" is essentially grip with laser in butt end to trace staright plane line and attachment to bungee or pulley as appropriate :

- The Swingers mini dowel attaches at tip of grip...to promote a longitudinal pull.
- The hitters mini dowel attaches to bungee at back of shaft around pp3

Also the angle of pulley on the swingers system can be moved to align with the turned shoulder plane to ensure an on plane pull.

Disclaimer :- Please be careful with rope...it is very close to your neck and golf can be a depressing game!!
Finally the "Secret" is revealed, for the "Loading" and initial "Sustaining" parts. Close enough to the overall picture.

The "Sustaining" through impact is what it is all about.

Good Job!
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YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn.
Bend the shaft.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:00 AM
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Lately, i read almost all information of Mr. Hogan as far as i can reach, 25 books with his name inside, video and DVD, and i paid attention on his ZONE #1 such as keeping the right knee angle and trace the ball; pivot around the left leg; hip slide before start down...etc

When i went to range, my shots became left, left, left right, left and even shannnnnk

I knew that there is something wrong in such a way of practice. One night after a tricycle accident to my leg (my son crashed to me), i laid down and started to think...If Homer really did take huge amount of Hogan's swing as reference in writing the book, why Homer focused on monitoring HAND instead of PIVOT?

Ben Hogan wrote over 30 pages regarding the GRIP in 5 lessons and he said he wish to have 3 right hands; he said his secret to Life Magazine was his cupped left wrist (with the change of his way to grip), all related to ZONE #3.

With golfbulldog’s pictures, it was a wake up factor! I drew, though very bad, these 3 pictures below and with reference to Denis Pugh recommended so-called “Butterfly Grip”, helped me hitting solid shot after shot – power fade.





The image was awesome! When I pull slowly, the body pivot in response moving slower, when I pull hard, the left hip cleared out of the way for my PULL. It works for me very well and I hope my search is ended.

THX Richard!
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